The following is a note I received from an advertiser after he
got a SPAM warning from a Spam Vigilante. Note that his service
is a SPAM Filtering Service!
Mike,
Do you know what this means, and how it happened?
Joe
----- Original Message ----- From:
<82451690@reports.spamcop.net> To: Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002
7:18 PM Subject: [SpamCop (http://spamfilter.website101.com)
id:82451690] [Astrology.ca] May 25 Horoscope > - SpamCop V1.3.3 -
> This message is brief for your comfort. Please follow links
for details.
The following note come from the VIGILANTE via SpamCop
> > I never signed up for this! Send CONFIRMATION emails BEFORE
mindlessly signing people up to prevent unauthorized signups! >
My response to my list advertiser is next
Joe,
You have just become the latest victim of spam vigilantism by a
SpamCop member. It is a hate crime practiced by folks with
little else to do but chase phantom criminals because they are
so annoyed by REAL spammers. I guess you can't blame them since
that is what obviates the SpamFilter Service you provide. I have
written previous articles on the absolute stupidity of this
vicious circle. You provide a valuable service with SpamFilter
which is intended to stop spam directly. SpamCop thrives, in
part, because your very worthwhile SpamFilter service is so
necessary. I only wish more people would use SpamFilter and
fewer used SpamCop.
Here is the usual course of events, Joe.
I host a daily horoscope list that goes to 4500 people. Many
times enthusiastic astrology list subscribers sign up friends
and relatives without their permission, to share a particular
horoscope with them. It's the biggest drawback to hosting that
list.
But I keep all subscription requests and can prove them. I've
had run-ins with SpamCop before and they know about my list and
that there are occasional complaints due to those unrequested
sign-ups to the list by over enthusiastic friends and relatives.
As you can see, I am advertising SpamFilter in that daily
horoscope and when a complaint goes to spamcop, their mindless
automated system sends to every domain listed in the email.
I've had trouble with it before and have a section in the
SpamFilter folder discussing it. Note the links to SpamCops
Abuses and the multiple articles from other victims of the
so-called service. Most of us are list hosts or have our own
newsletters. Read the articles I have posted.
http://website101.com/SpamFilter/spamcop.net.html
http://website101.com/SpamFilter/spamcops.html
http://website101.com/SpamFilter/spammer_spamming.html
All that is required is to notify everyone involved of the
likely cause, that is friends signing up others without
permission. I even directly ask people NOT to sign up others to
avoid this trouble. But when it does happen, I always notify my
web host, the list host and any advertisers in the list and it's
becoming routine, unfortunately, because of how SpamCop works --
or I should say, doesn't work. That is the reason I like your
SpamFilter service so much. It removes the crap to allow me more
time to deal with real issues.
SpamCop is a real issue and I tire of the vigilantes involved
with them. Unfortunately, it seems not to go away, no matter how
many list owners are attacked this way. I'm sending a copy of
this to my Web Host, my List Host, to SpamCop, to you and to
other advertisers, so that everyone is aware of the stupidity
involved and doesn't take the matter too far. I'll be posting a
copy of this in the SpamFilter article file as well to further
illustrate the vigilante nature of SpamCop members.
Makes me think of lynchings and other hate crimes when people do
this. Talk about knee-jerk reactions. Notice that the complainer
is masked by SpamCop? They complain anonymously and it's not
possible to respond to them, even when you would like to explain
it to them. Neither can you unsubscribe the complainer. Usually
they just continue to complain and you must continue to defend
yourself so your host doesn't take action against you, your list
or your site.
In this case I can prove the person is subscribed, and if they
did the complaining directly to me, I could show them the
subscription and the IP address of the person that subscribed
them. But they string up the noose and attempt to hang the
object of their wrath, even if they ought to be stringing up the
friend or relative that subscribed them to the list without
their permission. Note also that there is a plainly visible and
always available UNSUBSCRIBE link at the bottom of the list.
They don't unsubscribe, they would rather complain than to take
direct action. It's all really very absurd.
Mike Banks Valentine
Joe wrote:
Mike, Do you know what this means, and how it happened. Joe
----- Original Message ----- From:
<82451690@reports.spamcop.net> To:
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 7:18
PM Subject: [SpamCop (http://spamfilter.website101.com)
id:82451690] [Astrology.ca] May 25 Horoscope > - SpamCop V1.3.3
-
> This message is brief for your comfort. Please follow links
for > >details.
> >I never signed up for this! Send CONFIRMATION emails BEFORE >
>mindlessly signing people up to prevent unauthorized signups! >
> http://spamcop.net/w3m?i=z82451690z7ace8a3499a4c
47e3d2714d14424bca0z > Spamvertised website:
http://spamfilter.website101.com > >
http://spamfilter.website101.com is 66.216.72.170; Sat, 25 May
2002 03:34:38 GMT
The following is a copy of the daily horoscope list that I host
that was falsely accused of spamming by someone that was signed
up by a usually well-meaning friend who simply wants to share a
horoscope they think has particular meaning for their friend or
relative. I don't condone this, and I wish that subscribers
wouldn't do it, but it is rather harmless, isn't it? Notice the
advertisers (who also get spam notices from SpamCops.) > >
AstrologySender.com presents Horoscopes Daily > Brandi Jasmine,
Editor > >
¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶º¶ >
> AstrologySender.com powered by Astrology.ca > > You are
receiving this issue because you subscribed > Unsubscribe by
using the address at the bottom of page. > >
------------------------------------------------------------ > >
==> Sponsor Ad: SpamFilter! > ==> Today's Horoscopes > ==>
UniqueSender.com Themed Portals in YOUR Interests! > ==>
Classified ads: Healing Oat Bath Mix >
------------------------------------------------------------ > >
Fed UP with SPAM? Finally, there's a Solution! > > SpamFilter
Cleans your inbox Before you check email! > If you are spending
too much time deleting unwanted > commercial email and stopping
pornographic images > from filling your inbox. Check out
SpamFilter! > > 7 Day Free Trial if you sign up this week! > >
http://spamfilter.website101.com > >
----------------------------------------------------------- > To
have your ad appear above send for our ad rate card >
mailto:ads@AstrologySender.com >
----------------------------------------------------------- > >
25-05-2002 > > Aries > > Don't try to push your values or
priorities on a friend today. Even > if you are in the right,
the effort could backfire, leaving a lot > of negative feelings
instead of the positive effect you had hoped > to generate. You
won't be at your most patient or tolerant today. >
Most Horoscopes have been removed, come sign up if you want
yours! I'm willing to bet the complainer was an Aries. ;-) The
end is included here to show the UNSUBSCRIBE notice and the
additional advertiser that was an unwitting victim of this Spam
Vigilante.
> Pisces > > You are likely to make spontaneous trips or
excursions today, but > they are not likely to turn out like you
hoped. It's okay if this > takes place relatively close to home,
but a spur of the moment > cross-country trip is definitely not
a good idea. > > >
----------------------------------------------------------- > >
Healing Oat Bath Mix for Sunburn Damaged Skin > > Soothes and
heals sunburn damaged sensitive skin > Use as a poultice to
relieve when sunscreen failed > > http://www.pennyisland.com > >
AOL Members Click Here >
------------------------------------------------------------ >
The plainly visible directions for unsubscribing included in
every email.
> Visit the following address to subscribe and unsubscribe. > >
http://guidelists.com:81/guest/RemoteListSummary/Astrology_CA >
> click link above, enter your email address > click
"unsubscribe" click the "submit" button > > --
The following info comes directly from the SpamCop.net web site
and the links will take you to their FAQ pages. SpamCop FAQ
http://spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/1.html
SpamCop ISP and mailing list admin FAQs :
http://spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/75.html
I have been falsely and/or maliciously accused of spamming, what
can I do?
http://spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/167.html
The following is text directly from the SpamCop from that last
link. Save it for the inevitable day that YOU are persued by
Vigilantes.
"False spam reports are not tolerated. Users who file false
reports will be banned from the SpamCop service and/or fined.
However, in order to take action, we must see proof of
wrongdoing. If you would like to take action against a user who
has erroneously accused you of spamming, please forward to
deputies@admin.spamcop.net:
The entire SpamCop report, including full headers and the
entire spam.
Proof that the user in question did subscribe for your list.
(Proof can be a log excerpt or a copy of the returned, e-mailed
confirmation. There must be proof of a two-way, secure
confirmation. This must include IPs and datestamps for two
stages - both a signup and a confirmation.)
If you would like to pursue action with the user's internet
provider SpamCop reports include all the information you need to
do so. IP address and datestamp of the complainant are included
in the report. You can even feed a SpamCop report to SpamCop to
determine the originating point."
About the author:
Mike Banks Valentine hosts the valuable SpamFilter service at
http://spamfilter.website101.com if you want to get real about
SPAM and do more than complain. Come join the I-Privacy
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